because it's static, when you raise taxes, that $650 billion of additional taxes that went in because of the cliff deal, that adjusts the baseline. that is going to make the numbers look somewhat differently. right? we'll have to make some choices. there's no question about it. >> right. >> but we have committed to putting a budget out there that will actually bring it to balance within ten years. now -- >> but you can't tell me what because there has to be some big changes in order to do that. >> we haven't seen the numbers yet. but i'm telling you this added baseline adjustment because of the revenues, because you're statically scoring it is going to have an effect. but, listen, there are things that we've got to do. you cannot keep spending this kind of money and it's driven by the health care costs coupled with the demographics. we have to do something to control it. and i think most people would say. >> there are proposals out there. paul ryan had them. the republicans couldn't get behind that either. the fact is nobody seems to want to own up to a budget that is going to hurt. n